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Post by ComradeB on Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:40 am

Hello,

I have noticed a lot of leftist vocabulary around here, and I have also noticed that the antisexual movement originated in Russia. I have also noticed that I am a communist. So putting two and two together, there should be, mathematically speaking, other communists here.

If you are also a communist say "I" and please explain how you became antisexual and why.

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Post by x Nacht Klaue x on Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:48 am

I don't know what a "communist" is (I've already googled about it, it seem complicated to understand. I'm not a leftist or right wing either. How do I know if i'm a communist?
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Post by Biscotti on Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:55 pm

There was a communist in the past, who was from Canada, but they aren't active anymore.
I'm not communist, I'm American. Also it's curious you say there've been "leftist" talking points around here, as I haven't heard that before. I hope it doesn't scare anyone off who thinks we're politically driven rather then antisexually driven. I also wouldn't say I'm leftist, as I don't consider the IAM in harmony with current "leftism".
There still is a russian antisex community somewhere. One of them posted on our forum briefly.
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Post by x Nacht Klaue x on Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:53 pm

The leftist are like cear bear. And the right wing are hitler-wannabes. And the communist are? Who and what are they? I hope I can get a brief explanation. I've asked about it once before and no one wanted or could answer.. You don't have to answer either if you don't want to. Don't feel pressure.
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Post by ComradeB on Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:03 am

@Biscotti wrote:There was a communist in the past, who was from Canada, but they aren't active anymore.
I'm not communist, I'm American. Also it's curious you say there've been "leftist" talking points around here, as I haven't heard that before. I hope it doesn't scare anyone off who thinks we're politically driven rather then antisexually driven. I also wouldn't say I'm leftist, as I don't consider the IAM in harmony with current "leftism".
There still is a russian antisex community somewhere. One of them posted on our forum briefly.
The communist vocab I've read around here are words like "comrade" and attacks against fascism.

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Post by ComradeB on Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:07 am

@x Nacht Klaue x wrote:The leftist are like cear bear. And the right wing are hitler-wannabes. And the communist are? Who and what are they? I hope I can get a brief explanation. I've asked about it once before and no one wanted or could answer.. You don't have to answer either if you don't want to. Don't feel pressure.

Okay, it is a bit complicated I'll admit, however to make it as brief as possible.

Communism is a socioeconomic system which is moneyless, stateless & classless.

There are many forms of communism and communist thought, however the most popular form is Marxism-Leninism, there was a point in time where two-fifths of the world's countries were Marxist-Leninist nations, as opposed to the liberal nations we have today.

My personal opinion of communists, as a communist, is that we believe in things that you may consider "care bear" such as universal healthcare, the right to housing, the right to employment, the rights of oppressed peoples, and so on and so forth. However we are also not politically correct, as evident by the fact that I am an antisexual. I hope I'm explaining this well, any questions?

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Re: Communist Role-Call

Post by xenosimiana on Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:58 am

One question I think someone would ask is: Why isn't it as effective/successful as Capitalism?

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Post by x Nacht Klaue x on Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:00 pm

ComradeB, thanks for your explanation! Yea, I got it.
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Re: Communist Role-Call

Post by radarerror31 on Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:44 pm

I'm a really, really lazy communist who would probably run like hell from the revolution when it comes.  I'm pretty sure that whenever communism takes over the world, it will be captained by people who either don't know what the hell they are doing and will find a way to fuck it up, or people who are just in it for the power who will just find a way to continue the same power structure in a new form.  Revolutions are fought by those with the means to win them, not because people are oppressed and fighting the good fight for freedom.

"Leftists" are garbage, and a lot of "leftism" is deliberately spread by thought leaders defending the ruling order in order to destabilize opposition.  Sexual politics is the first resort to destabilize opposition, and it has so far worked for the rulers.  Drug culture is another big one (most acidhead culture was propped up by the establishment / CIA to discredit the anti-war movement and American socialists).  It's sickening that so many of these leeches are shitting up anti-capitalism with their horseshit.

I don't think communism has anything much to do with sexualism, aside from Marxism categorically rejecting idealism and thus basing a whole belief system around one's own penis, which is surprisingly dominant in our world (which is, really, an aspect of fascism - fascism is necessarily a hypersexualist ideology).

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Post by ComradeB on Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:09 am

@xenosimiana wrote:One question I think someone would ask is: Why isn't it as effective/successful as Capitalism?

Comments like this is why I don't like most people in the west. You people cannot even define success or Capitalism. You people parrot corporate propaganda and then think you're enlightened.

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Post by Biscotti on Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:22 pm

Ive determined why Im against it. Capitalism defines independence. The money and property you get, you can spend as you see fit. Personal ownership allows independence and with it comes personal responsibility,
Comminism defines social engineering. From my experience people who lean that way (to the "left") tend to look at people not as individuals but as members of a society. I also think they tend to view peoples actions as a reflection of the society and not as the personal choice and responsibility of the individual. And their solutions to problems in society often involve social engineering.

How much would you say thats true? I mean your last post did pin someones opinion on society. Not that thats a make or break as I dont know how true it is that they didnt put mich thought in to it.
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Post by radarerror31 on Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:06 pm

@xenosimiana wrote:One question I think someone would ask is: Why isn't it as effective/successful as Capitalism?

The Comecon wasn't doing that badly until the shit started hitting the fan in the 70s, and you didn't see the infamous breadlines until the 1980s when the system was on the verge of collapse.  For its purpose, the Soviet system worked reasonably well, and bear in mind America during the '40s-60s engaged in a lot of state planning and attempts to manage the market so that there wouldn't be another Great Depression-tier event.  The USSR wasn't really Communism, but it was not really a failed system either, at least not until the 1980s.

Attempts to operate a "mixed" economy are generally failures unless you're in the First World and benefit from extracting wealth from your colonies (well, effectively colonies), and even then the era of class collaboration in the West has fallen apart in favor of neoliberalism - and not surprisingly, it took about 30 years for neoliberalism to shit the bed, about 10 years ago, and we're still basically in that same depression.  The USSR had to retain the commodity form for a lot of reasons, as did China, and that was one of the roots of its demise (another being that America was such a juggernaut in the post-war period that it would have to be run into the ground by utter incompetence to lose, and even a USSR with god-tier leadership couldn't have survived much longer than it did).  Usually the "socialism" that still exists is social democracy, and doesn't take the step of expropriating the business class that would be necessary for socdem policies to be sustainable in the medium term (otherwise, you get stuff like empty store shelves the minute it becomes economically beneficial to sell on the black market, or when the capitalist class decides they want to strike and sabotage the economy to instigate a coup).


Comminism defines social engineering. From my experience people who lean that way (to the "left") tend to look at people not as individuals but as members of a society. I also think they tend to view peoples actions as a reflection of the society and not as the personal choice and responsibility of the individual. And their solutions to problems in society often involve social engineering.

How much would you say thats true? I mean your last post did pin someones opinion on society. Not that thats a make or break as I dont know how true it is that they didnt put mich thought in to it.


I'd say it's basically a collection of memes that get propagated a lot by pro-capitalists rather than an accurate statement.  Social engineering is a fact of life; pretending that the heavily propagandized, tightly managed society that we live in is just human nature is ridiculous.  It is not something unique to Communism.

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Post by ComradeB on Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:46 pm

@radar

I believe that the issue with much of these Communist vs Liberal debates are that imperialism is generally ignored within the debates, thus the Liberal side completely ignores the third world, which encompasses the vast majority of capitalist countries (there are more third world capitalist countries in existence today, than the total number of Communist countries that have ever existed throughout history).

I'm currently staying in Kenya, and Kenya is actually one of the more better off countries in the third world. Countries like the Congo, Somalia, Syria and such are much more difficult. However my point is that it is not fair for Communist countries to be compared to imperialist countries.

Also we should consider revisionism, had there been no revisionism, Communism would still be large today.

Lastly, most debates regarding capitalism v Communism boil down to a debate over a planned economy vs a market economy. A big issue with these debates is that both sides refuse to agree on even the most basic assumptions (e.g. Commodity production vs Useful Consumer Products).

That's all I have to say for the time being. I'm not very interesting in debating so much. I consider winning a debate to be convincing the other side of ones position, I don't think that's realistic here.

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Post by xenosimiana on Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:15 pm

@ComradeB wrote:
@xenosimiana wrote:One question I think someone would ask is: Why isn't it as effective/successful as Capitalism?

Comments like this is why I don't like most people in the west. You people cannot even define success or Capitalism. You people parrot corporate propaganda and then think you're enlightened.
Ok, calm the fuck down. I just wanted to know anyone who's Communist their responses to this common question, because I'm curious about Communism and actually find some points appealing.

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Post by xenosimiana on Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:18 pm

@radarerror31 Thanks for the info.

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Post by x Nacht Klaue x on Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:33 pm

"When you're antisexual and you're using the f-word" (I come up with this meme now lol).
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Re: Communist Role-Call

Post by ComradeB on Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:10 pm

@xenosimiana

The answer is that capitalism is not more successful or effective than communism. If the bailouts didn't happen in 2007-08 then the biggest banks in the world would have collapsed and brought the economy down with them (hence, too big to fail).

Most critiques of communist or former communist countries stem from a Nirvana fallacy (e.g. if it's not perfect it isn't worth it) or stem from a complete misunderstanding of the goal of marxism.

Communist countries instate planned economies for the sake of developing production until labor is unnecessary. They also attempt to become more and more progressive. It is a phase, a process, a means to an end. It is not like capitalism wherein what we see now is the end goal.

Also note that planned economies are not exclusive to Socialism, the ancient Incan Monarchy had a planned economy.

We also cannot speak of the "success" of capitalism whilst simultaneously ignoring third world exploitation of labor or raw materials. Most value in the first world is appropriated from the third world.

GDP figures are garbage. Better measures are direct measures such as industrial output, doctors per capita, life expectancy & so on.

Your question is a bit generalized, it's best to be more specific.

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