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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:08 am

Not sure if a thread about this topic, which is close to my heart (the way an ulcer is close to one's stomach), already exists, but it can't be mentioned often enough how traumatizing sexual education is. Because the way it is actually taught isn't educational at all, since it isn't about the imparting of facts, but agendas. I will share some examples of this cult-like indoctrination, of course straight from the deep dark liberal woods of central and northern Europe. To show and warn people from still more traditional societies where thoughtless liberalism and its best friend sexualism always run to. A few hops over the stones of morality, straight off the cliff called logic, flying down the waterfalls of decency and right into the pit of "why".

The videos will be disturbing to some people that can't watch sexual content, please brace yourself if you watch this, or don't. I've been traumatized by my own German education as well, so even for me this is a bit hard to watch sometimes. The following are clickable links.

Norway

Playlist of something they want teenagers to watch, would be considered pornographic in many countries, so be aware of that.


Documentary-like thing about the current state of sexual degeneracy in Norway and some other European countries. A bit pop-cultural.

Fun compulsory sexual roleplay in class! (No idea if this is fake, but wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't)

Quora topic: How is sex education taught in European schools?

See first answer. Hm, yes, really important stuff for schildren under 10 to know about! Or anyone.

Netherlands

Hey, that's innocent enough I guess...maybe *looks at the video title* Oh.



"In the Netherlands, sex ed is mandatory in primary school."

I think that string of text in the video says more than I want to say about this.

Germany

~70s "education" which looks downright satanic. And I rarely if ever use that word to describe anything.


Please do yourself a favor and don't watch this. Don't be like all those children that literally had to watch this and are now traumatized for life and running for government here.

Short documentary about some sexual education in some school. (A gymnasium, meaning higher education. Heh.)


I don't believe this really needs a translation, but basically they're drawing funny little "pictures" and improving their vocabulary with relevant words like "fucking" and other vulgar synonyms of said word. Later they're explaining STDs to these future reproduction-warriors. I know a sure way of not catching them at all, but shhh, it's a secret...you'll never guess it. The rest of the horror is visually observable. When I was still in school here we had to pull condoms over wooden penises too, so it is accurate.

France


Sex ed in primary schools

My auditory comprehension of French is rusty, but I think the meaning should be obvious enough. She reads a cute story about a child's nether parts developing. You know, as you do. Why do I have to type stuff like this out, this is in school curriculums. I "love" how these pictures in children's sex ed books are intensely pedophilic. Trying to portray sex as something happy and clean to get children interested in it. Happy naked people jumping around, so innocent and sweet! Oh wait no, it's a sex ed book.

England


They recently made it compulsory, too.

Welcome to the club I...guess.

That's it for now.


If anyone wants to share more, or inform others about the state of affairs in their own country, feel free to do so. But I think the main point has come across and yes, I'd share more myself, but I feel ill. Apart from forcing these developing beings to sit in a cramped, sweaty room and lose their dignity and freedom by being forced to listen to horny adults talk about twitching nether regions and how great it is to feel their nethers twitch, which is already hard enough to watch, the amount of cult-atmosphere that's prevalent everywhere there is just painful. The only thing missing would be ignited candles and symbols on the floor, to make the otherworldy atmosphere of confusion and peer pressure complete. You could cut the awkwardness with a knife. All these people don't want to be there, and deep-down know how intrusive and wrong this is, but can't leave.

So, yes. Central and northern Europe. Great place. If nightmares are your favorite kind of dream. I hope it's different in other parts of the world, but ultimately, even if they leave you alone in school, they certainly won't be that nice once you've grown up. I do believe however that the developing brain should not be put through something like this, as it does real damage to the psyche, especially to more sensitive people. Children should at least learn to mentally prepare themselves for this, or learn to deal with the trauma later once they're adults. because I don't think the liberal train is stopping anytime soon.


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Post by x Nacht Klaue x on Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:40 pm

In our country they teach the children at the age of 8 (grade 3) (Edit, or maybe second grade) by letting them watch sex-video (at least when I was 8 years old, don't know how it is now..).


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Post by SCH0206 on Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:44 pm

Ugh! That's disgusting what's going on in European schools. Too bad homeschooling is banned or heavily restricted in that continent.

I'm not sure how sex ed is taught in my country (the States) today since I'm not around children very often nor do I work in the education industry, but when I was a kid, I needed a signed permission slip to take it. When I was in sixth grade, it covered reproduction and puberty, and in high school they covered STDs and condoms. It wasn't as explicit as you described. 

In my opinion, only parents/guardians should be teaching sex ed not schools, and I think it should cover topics like where babies come from and body changes, not pro-sex propaganda. Schools should be focused on subjects like writing and math, not smut. Poor kids.  Sad

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Post by x Nacht Klaue x on Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:03 pm

I will not post any videos because I don't want anyone to get their minds ruined as it has ruined me. I have written about these things in another thread. It's good at least that this has it's own thread which is very important thing to me as well.

I can say that there is no really difference between Norwegian way of teaching and the teaching in our country (which also is in europe).

The video which they show to teenagers are example guys who lick the girls genitals (oral sex) and many other things which they promote / encourage. They say it's good to masturbate, they teach different sex positions, etc.
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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:01 pm

@x Nacht Klaue x wrote:In our country they teach the children at the age of 8 (grade 3) by letting them watch sex-video (at least when I was 8 years old, don't know how it is now..).

For me it was in first grade, when I was six. I still remember how weird it was. Now they show similar things to kindergartners. And worse. In the time I was looking up this stuff, I couldn't find out much about the situation in Finland, Denmark and Sweden, otherwise I would have included it, but it's probably similar.

@SCH0206 wrote:Ugh! That's disgusting what's going on in European schools. Too bad homeschooling is banned or heavily restricted in that continent.

I'm not sure how sex ed is taught in my country (the States) today since I'm not around children very often nor do I work in the education industry, but when I was a kid, I needed a signed permission slip to take it. When I was in sixth grade, it covered reproduction and puberty, and in high school they covered STDs and condoms. It wasn't as explicit as you described. 

In my opinion, only parents/guardians should be teaching sex ed not schools, and I think it should cover topics like where babies come from and body changes, not pro-sex propaganda. Schools should be focused on subjects like writing and math, not smut. Poor kids.  Sad

Yes, considering how "liberal" many European countries claim to be, it's odd that homeschooling is banned in most of them. I guess they want all the students to be "on the same page". Mostly politically, it seems. It's unacceptable that nobody can even escape the madness that is modern sexual education.

The American education system seems to be more focused on education then, rather than propaganda. Nothing wrong with simply informing people of biological functions, without any opinionated content, the way it is here. When we get taught about digestion, the teachers don't sing praises to the digestive tract either, do they... I have no idea what happened here, but it isn't good.

And I agree with your last point, only objective fact should be taught in schools. But since schools are one of the the main potential propaganda machines of any state, I doubt that's ever going to happen. It's just sad to see how bad it's gotten here already. It's not even just sexual education anymore, all sorts of political propaganda gets taught as fact in public schools now.


@x Nacht Klaue x wrote:The video which they show to teenagers are example guys who lick the girls genitals (oral sex) and many other things which they promote / encourage. They say it's good to masturbate, they teach different sex positions, etc.

I'd say that could be firmly placed in the propaganda category at this point. There's literally zero educational value in a "recommendation" such as this.

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Post by x Nacht Klaue x on Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:44 pm

@Stars.of.Tears wrote:For me it was in first grade, when I was six. I still remember how weird it was. Now they show similar things to kindergartners. And worse. In the time I was looking up this stuff, I couldn't find out much about the situation in Finland, Denmark and Sweden, otherwise I would have included it, but it's probably similar.
This made me remember a specific memory. There was a guy who shouted that he was together with a girl, and they were both in 3 grade. So I was in 2 grade. People in grade 2 are 8 years old.

My memories from kindergarten are vague. I can't remember anything sexual from kindergarten..
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Post by x Nacht Klaue x on Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:57 pm

I actually read on the news about newly arrived and how to teach them sex education. Many children from Syra has come here alone without parents. They want to give them and other refugees sex education.
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Post by SlagToccata on Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:17 pm

Whew, glad I didn't have to deal with this in the USA. I just had sex ed in place of gym a few times in 8th grade, and again a few times in 9th grade. Public high schools here are actually notorious for pushing abstinence to the point where some movies have used it as a joke concept, and as SCH said, it's more about the facts and "how not to do it wrong" so to speak. Based on the amount of dislikes on those videos and the fact news stations seemed to be covering them in a critical light, I have hope that that horrible approach will fail to survive in Europe.
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Post by x Nacht Klaue x on Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:58 pm

Maybe it depends on faith. Religious people thinking more about shame and such stuff I think. USA is a christian country, isn't it? Because I see americans saying "amen" and "God bless you" which is very abnormal thing to say in our country. Neither the country I live in or Norway are christian countries so to speak. The majority are atheists / agnostics.


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Post by SCH0206 on Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:01 pm

@x Nacht Klaue x wrote: USA is a christian country, isn't it? 
While the majority of people in the States are Christian, it's not a Christian country because we don't have a state religion.

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Post by x Nacht Klaue x on Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:34 pm

I see.

I don't know if we have any state religion. When I say "christian country" I just mean if the majority in that country are christians.

It could be possible. I'm not a scientist or a researcher, but I see a possibility that how people choose to teach could depend on their faith.
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Post by SCH0206 on Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:40 pm

@x Nacht Klaue x wrote:I see.

I don't know if we have any state religion. 

I just conducted some research and found out that the state religion in Sweden is Lutheran Christianity. That's quite interesting since you mentioned that your country is predominantly atheist/agnostic.

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Post by x Nacht Klaue x on Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:11 am

I don't know what's meant by Lutherian Christianity but the majority of the people here are definitely not christians. I just searched on the internet to try to find anything in english and I found this,

https://www.thelocal.se/20150413/swedes-least-religious-in-western-world

This website is translating swedish news.

Less people are visiting the churches so many churches has been sold or torn down.
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Post by radarerror31 on Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:38 pm

For people of my social class they literally just showed us slides of venereal disease and issued the usual threats and intimidation.  No information about how reproduction actually works, just threats.  It's not surprising because sex ed is purely about ideology and indoctrination rather than anything meaningfully informative.  It's yet another method of reinforcing class distinctions.

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Post by x Nacht Klaue x on Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:20 pm

This society not only ruin childrens innocence but also ruin their body image. Cosmetic surgery has increased dramatically (boobs, lips, belly, nose, butt, genital).

Is there anyone here who wants to have children? Would you like this for your children? To learn about sex when they are 8 years old (as I was) and see sexuality everywhere (pics of retouched men and women posing in a sexual way) which is affecting girls self-esteem and body image. Guys too of course. Many guys spend too much time at the gym to get bigger muscles. And the girls try to get unnaturally thin.

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Post by xenosimiana on Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:16 am

I experienced the same thing radarerror31 mentioned in high school. Another grotesque thing I experience but instead this was in middle school was gruesome death photos of people who made some bad choices in life to "put the fear of god" in us to avoid criminal activity.

I do agree that in the U.S. religion does play a role in why people would take issue with schools showing children what x Nacht Klaue x and Stars.of.Tears mentioned. But I think non believers in the U.S. would have a similar reaction whether they were former believers or not.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:46 am

Interesting that American education takes the exact opposite route. But I agree with radarerror31 that that might also comes across as propagandistic to people, and therefore turn them away from the idea. Why is it impossible to simply teach the facts and move on? Every other human body part gets the same treatment. Well, sex is traumatizing, and almost no one can talk about their own trauma in an objective manner, I guess.

Still, I think it's at least better than what's happening in these European countries. At least you get shown the diseases sex brings at all, even if most other factual information of sex is omitted. Here we simply get told how great it is and that we should have it as soon as possible (but "safe"ly!). Diseases only get mentioned in a "how to have sex all day every day and prevent diseases as best as possible, tehee!" kind of way. The fact that abstinence is the only way to truly avoid STDs and other traumas of the mental variety doesn't even enter these people's heads. An average teacher is only as wise as the average society around him raised him to be. And an exceptional teacher only as wise as it allows him to be. Unless he wants to lose his job. Therefore no longer being a teacher. Proving my point.

If I might share another personal anecdote of psychological manipulation tactics

I remember the girls sitting at their desks in front of the sex-ed teacher when we were 11 or 12 (each gender got taught sex-ed individually at that age, and we had it every ~2 years starting from first grade), and the teacher asked us the utterly impersonal question if we were already menstruating. I don't think our various bodily discharges are of any importance in a classroom, unless she was worried about the chairs, but I digress. One of them said yes, so the teacher quickly followed her intrusive inquiry with a "Then you could already have babies now!". Oh, really. Yes, you taught us that already when we were much younger. And why mention it for this girl, specifically? This particular teacher also constantly mentioned, her eyes transfixed in a glazed-over 2,000-Yard Stare, the objective fact(!) that "sex is the most beautiful thing in this world", whenever there was a breathing pause. With an illustration of a cross-sectioned genital looming on the wall behind her head. Thanks for the valuable lesson, teach. The lesson being that you suffer from sexual Stockholm syndrome and need the kind of psychotherapeutical help you will never find in a sick society such as ours. I could smell the fear/stress sweat in that room quite intensely, so I don't think I need to mention how tense the atmosphere was. Nobody thought this was educational, instinctively they knew that it was horrific.

So yes, humiliation tactics and trips to bizarro land are at the very core of every well-done sexual indoctrination class.

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