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Post by Partsam on Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:09 am

I know this maybe sounds like a taboo topic for some people but this is the question that had to be asked. I have been reading content of the forum a lot last few days yet I'm suprised nobody mentioned that topic.
So, as I get it, antisexual is a label for people who refuse to be involved into sexual activities because of their negative attitude onto it. Now if a person isn't and doesn't want to be sexually active but mastrubates I don't think the one shall call himself an antisexual because the body doesn't know the difference between mastrubation and sex. To me it leaves a picture of people who can't find a romantic mate so put an antisexual label making excuse that they aren't even interested in sex while they are porn addicts when nobody is around (no offense if one founds himself in description).
I am an atheist and I am not and don't want to act sexually in any kind (including mastrubation) for the less of my life (some of the reasons are: supremacy over my body, over animal insticts, don't want to ruin the beauty of life with that gross animal act), so I am looking for the right label for myself to easier find others with similar beliefs...
So, do you antisexuals mastrubate?

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Post by Aztec12 on Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:59 am

Well from they way your talking it seems you might as well be antisexual. Your already got the definition. And umm I let the personal question be answer by others.
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Post by Biscotti on Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:40 am

I think antisexuals CAN masturbate. (English language has 2 meanings for can. I don't mean I think the ideal antisexual is allowed to masturbate. I mean I think people who are under the antisexual umbrella are not necessarily on the same page on masturbation with some being ok with it)

This reminds me of the topic of reproduction. While I would argue that SEXUAL reproduction is still SEXUALITY and is covered under antisexualism (even IVF's, semantically sexual is defined as 2 organism reproduction as opposed to asexual reproduction). There are some people who don't agree.

In the interest of keeping a small community cohesive, some of these differences must be looked past though.

But also, these opinions won't be silenced, and are welcome to be argued. And I like your arguments. My personal response is I do not think sexuality (with others) and masturbation is the same thing however. They're 2 different issues, socially, psychologically (And though you said they were the same physiologically, I'm not sure). They may have similarities though, imo mainly the addiction side. As you brought up porn addiction. I'd also argue that masturbation is more benign, and is preferable to overt sexual activity. Though I would not say it's GOOD, just comparatively good.
And ultimately I'd agree with you that masturbation is not a good habit, but it doesn't tick me off quite the same way to where I think it needs to be crusaded against. Though, sure I can see some opportunities to confront it. (Making an argument against it especially targeting the addiction aspect of it and offering advice)

I do think antisexual is a label that is useful, needs support and where you'll find like-minded people. But I don't think you can expect everyone here who calls themselves antisexuals to all be non-masturbators. Or even necessarily agree on that front.
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Post by x Nacht Klaue x on Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:39 am

Some antisexuals do and some antisexuals don't. It has nothing to do with antisexualism. As long as they don't think it's a good thing and part of antisexualism.. Masturbation is not a good thing for different reasons. Some examples, 1. Addiction. 2. Not a pure act. 3. Takes energy. 4. Causes some people social anxiety (one can get social anxiety for different reasons, that's why SOME gets better when they quit masturbation and porn according to the "victims" themselves). 5. Urinary incontinence.
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Post by SCH0206 on Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:19 pm

I'm with Aztec to refuse to answer a personal question. However, I would like to welcome you to the forum. It's been months since we had a new member.

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Post by x Nacht Klaue x on Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:22 pm

Yea, welcome. You can introduce yourself (if you want) in the thread "Member Introductions". How you found this forum and so on..
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Re: Do you mastrubate?

Post by Partsam on Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:11 am

My opinion is if everyone refuses to answer the question then probably the answer is yes. As I said before, a body doesn't know the difference between mastrubation and sex. I know some people don't want to make a relationship inpure, but is mastrubation any more pure?
To me it's stupid that people who mastrubate call themselfs antisexuals. Wouldn't that give people who are unable to find partner right to call themselfs antisexuals as well? ... I'm just really disapointed that the label "antisexual" is corrupted...

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Post by Biscotti on Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:39 am

My answer is the same as before. But I fail to see how you're confusing antisexualism with people who are unable to find a partner.

Presumably people who are unable to find a partner are prosexual, in that they want sex and think positively of it. Antisexuals are not like how they are because of failure to find a partner, but because they refuse to find a partner.
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Re: Do you mastrubate?

Post by Admin on Mon Sep 04, 2017 5:09 pm

This topic hadn't been addressed directly, but it has been indirectly in this thread: http://iamfortress.forumotion.com/t78-non-hormonal-methods-of-lowering-libido

If an antisexual person has a libido, they find it preferable to lower their libido than act on it. That's what I've observed among antisexuals I met who have libidos or aren't asexual, they often described as it having a body working against themselves.

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Re: Do you mastrubate?

Post by x Nacht Klaue x on Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:00 am

@Jalpits Seems like you are not reading all the posts??

I wrote SOME antisexuals do and SOME antisexuals don't !

Do you think that the few antisexuals that are active on this forum represents all the antisexuals in the world? And by the way, there has been discussion about masturbation here on this forum before, if that makes you happy! that's why I wrote SOME antisexuals do and SOME don't. Because there are those on this forum who don't masturbate according to what they wrote.

I could claim that masturbation is self-sex, like, having sex with oneself unless they are imagine they are having sex with someone else. Wether the person is antisexual depends wether they think it's a good thing, if they like the behavior, etc. It's not black and white. Those who masturbate are often addicted to it, in addition to that it becomes a habit. Like any other drug, they must struggle to get rid of the addiction / habit.

As far as I know, all types of antisexuals are welcome here as long as they agree with what it stands for. When people agree with it, then they can have whatever opinions they want. If they think masturbation is same as sex or if they think having a partner is wrong, etc, these are few of many different opinions one can have. But to think that they should not call themselves antisexuals, I disagree with it since it's black & white thinking. Like if you are not addicted to it then be glad, you don't know what anyone else is struggling with.

Do you know how many people that are suffering from masturbation? just google it, also google "nofap" and read. It's an addiction like any other addiction, so they need treatment / help and support, and this is a good forum for it!
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Re: Do you mastrubate?

Post by xenosimiana on Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:24 pm

Simple answer: I don't.

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Re: Do you mastrubate?

Post by Nachtleuchten on Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:40 am

To be honest, I cannot but agree with Jalpits. You are what you do. And I believe in free choice. No one forces you to become a drug addict or an alcoholic in the first place. You begin with it because you enjoyed it for whatever reason (or for whatever twisted reason).
Anyway, the conception of masturbation as a physical dependency that can throw your body in depravation-mode, as can happen with a proper substance abuse addiction, seems completely out of place, if not wholly gross to me. There’s no room for comparison here.


I cannot conceive of antisexual people other than literal asexual people. Literal.


So, in another way, the question of Jalpits makes no sense to me at all. It’s like asking a vegan: “Okay, you’re vegan, but surely you eat meat, don’t you?”


Of course you don’t. 


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