Annoyance is the pathway to change

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Annoyance is the pathway to change

Post by Biscotti on Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:54 pm

From now on, as antisexuals, spend NO time getting annoyed.

If you're ever annoyed, you're wasting opportunities, wasting emotions, wasting time. Turn those annoyances into opportunities! But at the least; disarm them.

Maybe it's people around you. Then
Interject with your own thoughts!:
And here's a tip, straight from my desk. The number one thing that holds me back from talking antisexualism? Because antisexualism is so niche, I fear I'll come across as someone from another group that I don't agree with. It's hard to convey a whole worldview in one interjection.
But. Who cares? As long as you're willing is it not their fault if they decide they don't wish to understand you. Who cares what they think? If they're that closed-minded then imo it's good to give them a taste of altering viewpoints.
or
Change the subject:
I watched some Whose Line is it Anyway. While amusing at first, it quickly got into a routine of tirelessly going back to the same Lowest Common Denominator jokes as a shortcut. "Oh I'll compare this thing to his penis or make a comment on penis size, a safe joke©. I have accomplished a joke and can sit down now". It's improv, it's what you expect, reaching for the nearest thing that can accomplish what you set out to do.
But when changing the subject, this technique could work. Get good at improv. Don't think beforehand, just talk, and finish your sentence as it goes, surprise yourself.

Or maybe it's a billboard, or something. In that case, be creative. Take the billboard next to it (Near where I live there's a billboard for porn addiction recovery hanging right above an adult shop) Print out a 5 page antithesis it and pin it to a wall dressed like Martin Luther. Email the people responsible? Or show up at their house with cookies that say "just stop" and "please" on it. IDUNNO

But I don't mean to go off the rails completely, keep the self-awareness, be ready to be civil at a moments notice, like a person at a party who acts drunk and gets loose perfectly fine without drinking a drop.

If you're interested in making a change know this.
When you feel annoyed, (You may have gotten desensitized to it by now), but when you feel that little twinge of annoyance, that little twinge is telling you you have to do something. An annoyance is synonymous with saying "things need to change". "I am annoyed at this" is SYNONYMOUS with "I need to try and change this or clear it up".
No matter what! Clear it up. Say something. Do something. Fight it. Distract from it, or heck distract yourself from it, sure those latter things could be"passive aggressive" but at the least they can help you keep in that mood, train yourself to realize when you're annoyed, realize when to take action.

It shouldn't be hard, after all, how bad really is it to be merely annoyed at something? But it's still a pathway to change. And really...what right do you have to be annoyed if you don't let people know your feelings about it anyway?

This also works for non-antisexual things imo.
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Post by Hate100 on Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:27 am

I'm mostly sad and extremely hateful rather than annoyed.

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Post by Biscotti on Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:43 pm

Sorry to hear that. Are you able to put into words what makes you feel that way? I could make deductions, but those aren't always accurate.
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Post by Hate100 on Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:02 am

It's the stupid movies that remind me of peoples' sexuality and how bad and ugly everything is.At least in those romance type movies,everything is predictable and they don't really show explicit sex scenes.Maybe I should just go and hide in a cave or something.

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Post by Biscotti on Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:41 pm

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Post by xenosimiana on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:10 pm

@Hate100 At first I would feel plenty sad and hateful as well, (every now and then it comes through) but I've upgraded to annoyance. But what Biscotti has mentioned here I'm trying to put into practice.

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Post by Hate100 on Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:40 am

Wow,I really hope that by change you don't mean becoming more tolerant towards sex positivity or changing from being against sexuality.

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Post by Biscotti on Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:13 pm

No, yes. We're not talking about changing our viewpoints on sexuality for the sake of others. 

I think she's talking about 2 things.
1. How to act in social situations where sex-positive culture is present in some passive way.

Let me give examples of active/passive.
Example where antisexualism is passive, and sex-positivity is active
A sex-free person is living life w/o sex, gains a friend who encourages the sex-free person to try sex. The sex-free person defends themselves with antisexualism.
Example where sex-positivity is passive and antisexualism is active
Someone in a discussion group makes a sex-positive statement that is NOT directed at anyone in particular but reinforces sex-positive attitudes. And another person in the group who is antisexual takes issue with that, and argues against it. This is the sort of thing I was talking about in the OP of this subject, starting a more active antisexualism movement. 

If you have opinions on how to interact in these types of social interactions though, please say.

2. Not letting other people's sexuality turn your mood to the worst. Keeping a positive attitude while standing your ground.
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Post by Biscotti on Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:35 am

Sorry, I didn't mean to speak for Xenosimiana, I took Hate100's comment to partially be directed toward me.
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Post by xenosimiana on Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:01 pm

I commented at first, but then deleted it because I thought it was for you.

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Post by Hate100 on Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:17 pm

My comment was for Biscotti.  

I'm lucky that I don't have to deal with many people and if I had to,I clearly wouldn't be talking about my sex negative views with them. 
I think that if someone is really an antisexual,he/she wouldn't even try to change.It's not like you can turn a bad thing(sex) into a good thing.That's the difference between an antisexual and other people who also don't want sex.

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Post by Biscotti on Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:35 pm

I agree with you, through all the different viewpoints of it, sex is still sex.
But I'm not trying to disillusion anyone into seeing sex as a good thing.

You're fine to keep your views private. But pushing against sex-positivity I think will be helpful and it's what I personally am trying to do (And tossing around way ways to do so in this thread for people who agree).

Does that clear things up?
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Post by Hate100 on Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:58 pm

English is not my first language and I might confuse things.For a minute,I thought you were saying that changing the antisexual views is good.


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Post by Hate100 on Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:05 pm

I remember seeing some pretty weird things being said on here.It almost seemed like they were trying to excuse sexual behaviour. 
I'm on the more extreme side of things.What I mean is that not only do I hate when people follow their sexual orientations but I hate their sexual feelings as well.So,I discriminate between sex negative asexuals and sex negative sexuals.It's obvious who is better.

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Post by Biscotti on Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:07 pm

Do you mean when we try to understand sexual behaviour?

I'm the midst of writing an analysis of why some sexuals view sex as such a "transforming" experience. It's mainly me playing armchair psychologist with their misplaced "epiphany".
I personally spend a fair amount of time with apologetics like that, and sometimes fail to post reinforcing support messages.

Anywho, this forum is for any and all antisexuals, if you do have issues with something someone said, simply quote it and type you're input/response/criticism.
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Post by Hate100 on Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:17 am

I'm past trying to understand them.What I have to do now is getting better at ignoring their filth or starting some sort of revolution. Ha ha  

I know it is for all kinds of antisexuals but the thought that not all them are asexuals makes me sick.  
Libertarian Antisexualism Some things that I do not agree with have been said here.Too... tolerant for my taste.

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Post by Biscotti on Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:34 am

I sort of agree! For the past few years I've operated under apologetics. Playing Devils advocate, being able to suspend my beliefs to understand the other side (Which also helps you undercut them). And I know how to be diplomatic and tolerable.

So that's good, I've proven I have that ability, yipee. Now it's the time to be intolerant and loud. If need be, I can slip back to being diplomatic, but that doesn't do much for changing the status quo.
This thread is about shifting to that mode.

I personally still support libertarian antisexualism with regards to governmental policy (Unless we do indeed somehow form our own government). I believe antisexualism should be full of people who believe in it, and aren't forced to lie/resent it. I would shy away from authoritarianism, because that can be bad. Golden rule.

Anywho, I'm going to suspend a few topics I was writing about for now(One was about psycho-analyzing sex-worshipers, the other was arguing that antisexualism is actually that natural way of thinking) and instead focus on rallying efforts/solidarity.
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Post by Hate100 on Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:19 am

It might be good to be able to accept the differences between people. 
I can be tolerant when it comes to other things,not sex.   
I guess I'm the type of person who would force people to do the right thing.Wow,I sound like a tyrant and I don't mind it that much.

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