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Post by Biscotti on Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:04 am

Yeah I've always thought about writing about that issue but it always gets complicated. I'm the same as Nacht Klaue (above). It's for choice and life since it doesn't deny the loss of life and prioritizes choice.
Most abortion arguments are really stupid because they don't bring up the obvious stupdly obvious thing that having sex is a choice. The idea that "pro-choice" and "pro-life" are mutually exclusive is a joke.
@foreverpure I get what you're saying, but calling it a parasite has some problems. It's a child of the person, has half their DNA. As an antisexual I get where you're coming from. But I find people who have abortions after willingly have sex as one of the most terrible symptoms of sexuality and am hesitant to spread that line of thinking if it encourages that sickness.

Again the best way to combat it isn't to ban abortions (probably) but fix what causes them.Which for us is sexuality, but for non-antisexual reasons it could be poverty and other such things. (I have been moderated to death on this issue :p)
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Post by Biscotti on Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:57 am

OH MY FREAKING GOSH THIS SENT ME ON A TRIP AROUND ABORTION POSTS AND I FEEL SIIIIIIIICKKKKKKKKK
NOT THE PROCEDURE BUT THE MENTALITIES OF THE PEOPLE
I HATE EVERYTHING
WHAT IS WITH PEOPLE
THERE IS SOME EXplANATION
WHAT
THE
ILL delet this...

But I really really really really am unsatisfied with myself I have no idea how to fix this. I just pretend I do. How do people get things done, how do they know what to do.
im haven a breakdown
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Post by ForeverPure on Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:56 pm

I am an antisexual, but also an antinatalist, if I where to choose between the two, I would choose antinatalism because it prevents more parties from experiencing suffering. Do I believe that my parents should have aborted me? Absolutely, but I would certainly have preferred they choose not to reproduce despite having access to birth control.

Of course, it would be better that they had not copulated in the first place, with or without contraception.
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Post by Biscotti on Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:04 pm

mhmm but you're overlooking it's imposing death on a nonconsenting party, there are people who value their lives. what you say has a similar lack of empathy that rapists have has it not? remember the golden rule.
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Post by Admin on Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:03 pm

I'm familiar with antinatalism, and it can still show empathy and regard for life in a way. It's not about being pro-death per se. It argues that it'd be better for someone not to be born to suffer, since no one asks to be born, but one interpretation I've seen is that there's still a duty to help existing people, to have the best life that they can.

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Post by ForeverPure on Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:05 am

@Biscotti wrote:mhmm but you're overlooking it's imposing death on a nonconsenting party, there are people who value their lives. what you say has a similar lack of empathy that rapists have has it not? remember the golden rule.

Actually it's the complete opposite. When a woman is molested and impregnated against her will, "pro-lifers" are the one that have the lack of empathy for the victim of molestation, not the antinatalist who would be more than supportive of her having access to abortion. You're overlooking the fact that it's imposing a parasite (foreign or not) on a party that does not desire to have a parasite attached to it and to deal with the subsequent health problems associated with pregnancy.

Life begins at conception, but that life is a far lesser developed form and is not capable of the same level of suffering that its host can face. I am not saying that a fetus is necessarily incapable of experiencing pain. Regardless of whether a fetus is conscious or not, due to its stage in development, it is not even close to being at the same conscious level as a fully matured adult or even someone in early childhood.

Do you have memories of being suspended in liquid and connected to tubes? If so, you might be from the Matrix or have false memories. I certainly can't remember a single instant before I was born and subsequently disconnected from my breeder's body. The only person who will remember that experience is your host. They were the ones that faced a period of discomfort and or agony while you grew and lived off its body, not you.
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Post by Away on Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:34 am

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Post by ForeverPure on Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:01 am

Just because some victims of molestation have chosen to stick with their pregnancy does not justify forcing others to do the same.
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Post by Away on Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:42 am

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Post by ForeverPure on Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:22 am

It's connected to their body, they have every right to decide to disconnect from it, living/conscious or not. It's not a child either, not even an infant, so we are not talking about "adults who rip apart innocents childs hands and feets and head". The procedure of abortion is not pleasant, most surgeries are not, but a proper abortion is far less unpleasant than a normal pregnancy in which a woman must endure months of pain.

Why do fetuses gain a soul after more than 3 months? Would it be murder if the mother aborted after 3.1 months? What about 2.9 or 3.0000001? Does the countdown start after the first positive pregnancy test or at an earlier time? Can the time be slightly offset if the carrier travels to a different timezone or is it on its own timezone? What about daylight savings? How many days would be in these months, 29, 30?

You have mentioned you are antinatalist to prevent more people from entering the hellfire, what is this "hellfire" you are speaking of? Is it a synonym for existence or do you believe everyone goes to the biblical place of Hell upon their death? Or is it implied you believe most people would go to Hell upon their death? Is this Hell a place of non-stop torture? Did you come to believe in this place of Hell after reading a book based off the beliefs of a man who claimed to be a religious prophet of a God that your signature states uses tricks to fool people to get them to do certain things?
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Post by Biscotti on Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:17 pm

Sorry I've been away.

@foreverpure regarding your first post after mine. Nothing in that post I said I disagree with. I am pro-choice, if someone was raped then it should be up to them, theres pros and cons of both and it'll depend on the person.
For non-rape cases I do. not. get. it. It's appalling and pathetic. 
Figuring out when a soul appears is worthless why are you talking about that, a person begins at conception. As an antisexualist I however justify removing the life in the terrible circumstance of rape, I do not think thats unreasonable do.
However anything more I also find unreasonable, if you had sex but """accidentally""" (Weird since thats the function of sex) have a kid and decide to abort it, then THAT is what I was saying in my last post was comparable with rape. It is exploiting and ruining the life of an innocent party for the purpose of the abusers sexual pleasure.
I have heard the suggestion that rapists should be castrated and woman who have abortions be as well. And find that interesting, however the perfect solution would be to stop it at the source, show sexual morality as a species. Which as an antisexualist I believe is in not doing it at all, however less extreme measure would also satisfy this condition.
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Post by Away on Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:33 am

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Post by Admin on Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:59 pm

Did those statistics show why they kept the baby? It's possible that some chose to keep it, but that others did only because they couldn't abort. In some countries, it's illegal. In others, it's legal up to a certain point, but could still be difficult to access, so they may know that they're pregnant early on, but not able to access abortion until weeks later, and by then it could be too late.

I don't see a point in hating someone for their gender, and the ongoing gender wars about relationships are frustrating. Relationships can be a trap for anyone, but nothing can change if men who dislike relationships and women who dislike relationships continue to be pitted against each other.

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Post by Biscotti on Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:05 pm

They get a soul at it's conception, dont act like theres some science regarding souls. Lets say all people have souls, and a person starts at conception, thus its the same thing. All this babble on "when its a person" that both pro-lifers and choicers babble over is a waste of thought.

"should an innocent life be punished for what a rapist did" the answer is yes, but it's less punishment as much as happenstance for how things are. The horror of death is comparable to a rape.
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Though it ISNT death and even when forced you should never let the enemy of sexuality defeat or break you.
In fact look at that sentence again and its unclear if it's actually talking about the rape victim.

Finally consider this, abortion is sometimes used when the mothers life is in danger, so what if the reason her mothers life was in danger was because of suicide. (My gosh it pains me to argue FOR abortion someone shoot me)

And post-finally this is really deep sh**, we should go back to complaining about homosexuals.
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Post by Admin on Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:11 pm

@Biscotti wrote:They get a soul at it's conception, dont act like theres some science regarding souls. Lets say all people have souls, and a person starts at conception, thus its the same thing. All this babble on "when its a person" that both pro-lifers and choicers babble over is a waste of thought.

"should an innocent life be punished for what a rapist did" the answer is yes, but it's less punishment as much as happenstance for how things are. The horror of death is comparable to a rape.
Spoiler:
Though it ISNT death and even when forced you should never let the enemy of sexuality defeat or break you.
In fact look at that sentence again and its unclear if it's actually talking about the rape victim.

Finally consider this, abortion is sometimes used when the mothers life is in danger, so what if the reason her mothers life was in danger was because of suicide. (My gosh it pains me to argue FOR abortion someone shoot me)

And post-finally this is really deep sh**, we should go back to complaining about homosexuals.

I don't understand the last point or why it's necessary. Given how heated this is starting to get, I may have to split this debate into a new thread.

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Post by Biscotti on Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:25 pm

The suicide debate? The LAST last one was a joke. I can remove it, didnt think it was offensive.
If it was the suicide one than feel free to talk about it. It is very heated and was why I tried to point out how heated it was getting with the last coment.

What I meant was that if the mother was considering suicide because of such a thing happening, then wouldn't that justify it.
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Post by Admin on Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:31 pm

I meant the last statement in your last post. Were you using that as an example of a heated but pointless debate?


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Post by Biscotti on Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:34 pm

I just thought it was a lot more tense and serious the the normal posts complaining about identity politics, was just trying to 'hang a lampshade' on it sorry.
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Post by Biscotti on Sat Aug 13, 2016 1:45 pm

It is provoking because it is looking at the world under the lens of a porn movie. Something that both the ad campaign and you are doing. However with the ad campaign its understandable because they're trying to be provoking to get a reaction.
Now leesen, people can be antisexual for any reason and I as well have and might still complain about things people say, but that's all it is, people saying stuff. 
Personally I think to argue those thing would be as stupid as arguing the morals in a porn movie. It would be akin to arguing against a troll.
It's not completely worth dismissing because if you're so worried about gender roles we could discuss that. I have some things typed up about it.

Also don't waste time feeling sorry that animals lack sapience, that's ridiculous. (Sorry if that's provoking)
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Post by Biscotti on Sat Aug 13, 2016 8:27 pm

"You don't understand this.." doesn't explain why you think I don't understand. I have grown frustrated, like you, at people trying to treat life like a porn movie before.

But if we're talking "extremist feminism" here I do remember there was a sect of feminism that thought that sex was inherently degrading to them. While I don't agree with that, rather I think it's insulting and degrading to everybody involved. It may be what you mean. Of course with feminism you can't tell if it's just a troll group or false flags without looking into it deeper. But you can google "piv sex is rape" to see the articles. 

However I would steer clear from that, antisexualism is the abolishing of sexuality which is abolishing the difference between male and female, and any inequal systems that most sexuals tend to complain about. And I very much do not think it wise too put gender politics into the movement.

EDIT: That doesn't mean we can't discuss it, didn't mean to imply that.
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