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Post by xenosimiana on Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:47 am

Alright, I need to get back to studying otherwise I'll be on here for another 30-45 mins.

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Post by Biscotti on Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:00 pm

She says people know they can trust her, but I don't feel full trust. I hear her echo once again "Rape isn't an act of sex, it's an act of violence". But I don't dismiss that claim or even fully disagree with it, I'm open to being argued for that, and agree it's so sometimes. But her stating it as a fact makes me think she's spinning a narrative.

As far as I can tell the hijab can mean many things, some are benign, others idunno.
1. They could do it to express their "culture". My main issue with that, is that it doesn't mean much. It's like prosexuals defending sex because it's "a rite of passage to being in a relationship" just cuz it is. I feel it's a benign defense.
2. They do it because they're scared men will sexualize/be driven to sexual behaviour if they don't. This is a can of worms. Oversexualization much?
3. They do it to reserve themself for their husband. That's stupid. Next topic.

Anyway, hijab depends. This woman has her interpretation, but I've heard other muslims give their interpretations as well. I DO see something wrong with people who want to cover their heads, DEPENDING ON THE REASON. But people with those reasons are unlikely to make a social justice video about it.

I'd recommend questioning the hijab when it's appropriate to do so. Being unassuming can lead to things slipping by that aren't good. And, I find a lot of problems with certain islamic sexuality that I've been tempted to write about before.

Edit: Oh yeah, I'm aware questioning a hijab is a vague suggestion with confusing applications. Just do it
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Post by Biscotti on Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:48 pm

Do you feel that all religions are the same purely because they're religions?

The other, isn't that just a hairpiece women use to keep the hair out of her eyes? I mean, if I'm wrong, and that hairpiece has been used oppressively somewhere tell me.
I stopped listening to the first video when she changed the subject. The latter video the women seemed to defend the hijab VERY broadly, PAST her own meaning she placed on it.

The hijab is a reflection of troubling views of women in certain Islamic states, that are itself a reflection of perverted views of sexuality.

Which, yeah, I think any sex-positive view of sexuality is perverted to some extent. But compulsory sexuality is one I don't take lightly.

I conceded that the hijab does NOT necessarily mean oppression, but turning a blind eye to it I would not recommend. Especially when I just had a very troubling talk with a Muslim in Sweden about this.
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Post by Away on Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:26 pm

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Post by Biscotti on Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:03 pm

There are different levels of "compulsory sexuality", and that doesn't excuse anything.

Oh, interesting, another antisexual video. But after watching it, it isn't an antisexualism podcast. It was a podcast where 2 people talked about antisexualism's textbook definition for a bit, then veered off to a bunch of crap like, "making sure all these esoteric sexual philosophies are presented to people, cause that's such an important issue! Gotta make sure we teach **** ******** in school, so those kind of people are represented!"

But interesting, I haven't done a search for antisexual on youtube in awhile and missed that. It did sound promising at first.
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Post by Away on Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:20 am

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Post by xenosimiana on Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:30 am

I find the religious reasons for covering the head for both women and men for the most part ridiculous. Modesty is important, but it just gets to the point that it assumes (or not) that people can't control themselves and simply ignore arousal. People find themselves getting aroused at many things esp. if it's something that they normally don't get aroused by and let that get to them. What if someone gets aroused by the many coverings that Muslim women wear? Or any woman for that matter? I mean it's bit understanding of how savage people are, but to me it's excessive and oppressive in how they deal with it.

With Islam, Judaism and Christianity there are many things that are vague leaving the worshipers confused as to what a particular surah or various passages in their books mean. Which makes me think their god isn't good at relaying what it wants from it's worshipers and is of course, human invention. It's been a while since I read the Bible but I vaguely remember in the New Testament in 1Corinthians 11 chapter about head coverings. I think it talked about how dishonorable it is for men while praying or prophesying to have their head covered because god is their head and women should have theirs covered while praying or prophesying otherwise it's dishonorable because men are the head of them. Something like that was mentioned in the New and not the Old Testament - the Torah and the Tanakh, but I've read that head coverings are mentioned in the Talmud, which I've never read.

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Post by Biscotti on Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:01 pm

This was well put together and investigated

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Post by Biscotti on Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:45 pm

I looked up the aborted babies, as I've heard it before. And from what I read it was less about aborted babies (Though one was still involved) and the actual issue was about some discovery that was made several years ago from that one aborted baby. And that this discovery was made for food research and not actually used in the food itself. Not sure, but researching more might at least ease your nerves a bit.
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Post by Biscotti on Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:33 pm

Sorry, I should have dropped where I read that from too
http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/pepsi.asp
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